I am trying to determine what the heck this is. My puffer is behaving normally and eating just fine, but I need to know if I need to be concerned about the white spots on its fins and tail.
I can go into tank detail if needed, but please help me identify this.
Thanks in advance!
Spiny Box Puffer covered in white spots
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Spiny Box Puffer covered in white spots
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Re: Spiny Box Puffer covered in white spots
Will need full tank details to help please. Do they come and go? When did you first see them?
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
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Re: Spiny Box Puffer covered in white spots
That looks like a burrfish to me.
Is Spiny Box Puffer an alternate name for burrfishes?
Is Spiny Box Puffer an alternate name for burrfishes?
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Re: Spiny Box Puffer covered in white spots
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I would add Marine Melafix & treat for IPs.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Spiny Box Puffer covered in white spots
What are IPs? I'm a little new to this.Pufferpunk wrote:
I would add Marine Melafix & treat for IPs.
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Re: Spiny Box Puffer covered in white spots
Salinity 1.026bertie 83 wrote:Will need full tank details to help please. Do they come and go? When did you first see them?
pH 8.0
Ammonia 0.0
Nitrate 0.0
Nitrite 0.0
60 gal fish only tank with the following inhabitants:
4 blue damsels
3 clowns
1 coral beauty
1 humuhumu trigger
1 algae blenny
1 spiny box puffer
Assortment of crabs, snails, shrimp
Fed once per day alternating mysis/krill & Formula 2/Silversides
10% water change weekly
No changes in last week
Set up for 3 months, fishless cycle for 4 weeks
Hope this helps.
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Re: Spiny Box Puffer covered in white spots
You're going to need a MUCH larger tank! Have you looked into the adult size of all your fish?
How is it you have NO nitrate? How much live rock is in there & what skimmer do you have? Is there a sump?
That spiny will be eating your crabs, snails, shrimp.
IPs are internal parasites. Most spiny puffers have to be treated multiple times for them.
http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/lib ... treatment/
How is it you have NO nitrate? How much live rock is in there & what skimmer do you have? Is there a sump?
That spiny will be eating your crabs, snails, shrimp.
IPs are internal parasites. Most spiny puffers have to be treated multiple times for them.
http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/lib ... treatment/
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Spiny Box Puffer covered in white spots
Added melafix and general cure to treat for ip. The spots seem to be getting worse. Would it beneficial to do a fresh water dip?
50 lbs of live rock and no nitrates. Just tested again.
I'm not sure of the skimmer brand. No sump. We run emperor 400 filter with bio wheel
As far as the size of our tank, we consulted with our local expert before adding the fish.
50 lbs of live rock and no nitrates. Just tested again.
I'm not sure of the skimmer brand. No sump. We run emperor 400 filter with bio wheel
As far as the size of our tank, we consulted with our local expert before adding the fish.
Re: Spiny Box Puffer covered in white spots
Can't be much of a local expert if he / she said all those fish would be fine in a tank of that size
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Re: Spiny Box Puffer covered in white spots
^^^^^^^^
Agreed!!!
Agreed!!!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"