Friend's Mbu puffer is sick

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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Friend's Mbu puffer is sick

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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

Unfortunately, the fish owner do not have the tools to test ph and other parameters.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

Size is around 80 gallons, around 10 3~4 cm discus.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

water is changed every 2 weeks, each time around 35% of the water, no chemical or de-chlorination is added.

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

None.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

It have been set up 8 months ago.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
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Hello, I am from Taiwan and English isn't my launguage.
This isn't my fish tank nor my puffer, I am helping a puffer owner in a taiwanese forum to cure his puffer's illness.
The puffer haven't been eating anything for a week, and it's just sitting at the bottom of the tank.
The puffer start to poop out green round shaped poop recently.

here are some pictures of the puffer.

http://i.imgur.com/ZiEbcoN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tYWIWeU.jpg

I know this tank setting is not appropriate for a MBU puffer, I am not a close relative with the owner, I am just simply helping on gathering information to help him.
honestly I don't even think the owner is fit to keep any fish, but I am no expert on puffer, so I hope some people out there can provide some information on this.

btw I own a fahaka and its well and hunting ghost shrimp all day long.
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Re: Friend's Mbu puffer is sick

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Unfortunately we can't do much to help without knowing the water parameters but also, because that tank is impossible to house a mbu puffer for long.

Best advise I can offer is to re-home that puffer to someone with a minimum of 300 gallon tank. 2nd best advice is daily water changes. Certainly is best for the poor discus, too.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Well, I have expected that kind of answer honestly, that owner is just plain terrible.
I tried to convince her to buy a test kit and test the water parameters, she just refused and say she will get it when the puffer gets better.
There isn't much information about puffers in Chinese websites, I am glad I know how to read English.
And thanks for replying.
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Re: Friend's Mbu puffer is sick

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Those discus are doomed, also, I'm afraid. :(
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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