In his stomach
He's been fine all day, I raised the temp, he's in a massive 3ft tank with all water parameters at 0 and a Ph of 7.6.
He's upside down, and I can see a 'bubble' in the middle of his stomach. He's kind of yellowish underneath.
HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
Boy am I glad to see you.
Spud is lethargic, lying on the bottom, he was fairly light coloured with a yellow stomach - it's been white up until now.
I've tried burping him, with no luck. A TINY bubble came out. The 'bubble' seems flaccid and is about the size of a grape but not as fat.
He's now very dark coloured and looks massively pissed off at me. He is, however, the right way up now.
Am I worrying over nothing? Is he merely sleeping, or simply doing his best to scare what little wits I have left?
Spud is lethargic, lying on the bottom, he was fairly light coloured with a yellow stomach - it's been white up until now.
I've tried burping him, with no luck. A TINY bubble came out. The 'bubble' seems flaccid and is about the size of a grape but not as fat.
He's now very dark coloured and looks massively pissed off at me. He is, however, the right way up now.
Am I worrying over nothing? Is he merely sleeping, or simply doing his best to scare what little wits I have left?
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
I have turned the aquarium lights off btw. The water temp is up to what you suggested, and I tested the water mid afternoon, and it was still stable.
He did expel what looked like a half digested bit of prawn shell.
He did expel what looked like a half digested bit of prawn shell.
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
Is he better now? You massaged his tummy?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
I held him vertically underwater, face up, and sort of massaged his tummy towards his mouth. The bubble is sort of flaccid, and a tiny, tiny bubble of air came out.
He is now sulking heavily in the bottom of the tank, hidden in a plant. He is dark coloured, but at least he's the right way up now.
Is a yellow stomach normal? And lying on his side? He's been relatively active today, swimming up to the glass if he sees us. I'm finding so hard to find information specific to him, as he's not the Congo I thought I was getting. I've not fed him, I know he was fed yesterday, before I got him, but I don't know how many, if any, of the ghost shrimp he ate overnight. I only found around 8 bodies, but I have had a REALLY good look and can't find any more.
He is now sulking heavily in the bottom of the tank, hidden in a plant. He is dark coloured, but at least he's the right way up now.
Is a yellow stomach normal? And lying on his side? He's been relatively active today, swimming up to the glass if he sees us. I'm finding so hard to find information specific to him, as he's not the Congo I thought I was getting. I've not fed him, I know he was fed yesterday, before I got him, but I don't know how many, if any, of the ghost shrimp he ate overnight. I only found around 8 bodies, but I have had a REALLY good look and can't find any more.
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
Sulking or I've killed him 
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
I think the yellow may just be his darker coloration.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
I'm going to leave him alone. I think he's dead though, I can't see any signs of movement at all.
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
No gill movement?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
YES! I can see his gills moving. He's in his Spud Cave, I think I'll turn the kitchen lights out, and let him be.
Thank you for all your help, I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.
Thank you for all your help, I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
WE LOVE SPUD!!! 
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
Sadly, I've just gone to check on him, and he has died.
I'm gutted, I really loved the little man. And I don't know what I did wrong, I've just checked the water and all the parameters are spot on, and the temp is 78
RIP darling Spud.
I'm gutted, I really loved the little man. And I don't know what I did wrong, I've just checked the water and all the parameters are spot on, and the temp is 78
RIP darling Spud.
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! 
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"