HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Stratters
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
I don't know what I did wrong, everything was exactly right, and I killed him
Never trust big puffers. The fingers you save may be your own. RTR
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sgtmyers88
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
Sorry for your loss. Is it possible that the store you got him from can offer an exchange or refund?
Is it possible that the store you got him from can offer an exchange or refund?WARNING: Puffers are mischievous little blimps with enchanting powers. You may not be content with having just one.
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Arny
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
Sometimes just the stress of being moved from tank to tank can make a puffer sick. It's not your fault mate. These things happen.
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Stratters
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
I'm a bit scared of getting another one, I think I need to learn more first. Spud was amazing, fascinating, but he worried me so much. I've spent the whole time frantically monitoring him, his tank, fretting over every little colour change. Plus, nobody round here really sells them, he was given to the LFS because he ate his tank mates - his previous owner had him in with a miscellaneous load of fish, and he naturally saw them as on tap dinner
I can't think of anything I've actually done to him, all I can come up with is stress, or that they moved him into the going home bag in a net, I didn't actually see them put him in though as I was buying him moss balls and more plants. He's the only big puffer they had, they have a couple of little greenish patterned ones in, but they don't normally stock them.
I can't think of anything I've actually done to him, all I can come up with is stress, or that they moved him into the going home bag in a net, I didn't actually see them put him in though as I was buying him moss balls and more plants. He's the only big puffer they had, they have a couple of little greenish patterned ones in, but they don't normally stock them.
Never trust big puffers. The fingers you save may be your own. RTR
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
Stop kicking yourself! You did all you could, you were on here before you took him home. I'm afraid it is just one of those things. I think you should get another puff, not many people care enough to seek more informed peoples opinions prior to bringing a puffer home, you did though so puffers belong in your life. Maintain the tanks cycle whilst you work out what to do as you don't want to start from scratch
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
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nzac
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Re: HELP!! Spud is lying upside down and has a bubble in
sucks when it happens, had a new abei die on me last year, it took a week for him to die (had no clue his activity/feeding level were not correct being my first abei). when they were catching him to put him in the bag they were going to take him out of the water to do so, I stopped him from doing that but it turned out he had a large air bubble in him anyway(only guess is when they moved him from their holding tank to display tank they pulled him out of water just like they do with every other fish). When I went back for a new one I had them pull it from their holding tank while I watched to make sure it did not come out of the water at all. This one immeadiately ate waayyyy more than the previous one and was a lot more hyper. Fish shops that don't normally deal with puffers don't necessarily understand there are different methods you have to use on these fish, and it doesn't help when there are 20 different employees some know and most don't.