My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby titanoboa100 on Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:53 pm

To Scpion. I have been using the carbon pad since I purchased the tank kit back on 3/26 2012. It came with the Aqueon filter tank. I will have to look at bacteria absorbing filter media when I buy my test kit.
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby Pufferpunk on Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:01 am

That product doesn't work. IMO, all you are doing is adding more dead bacteria (waste) to your unestablished system. toss the carbon. Actually, you're going to need to upgrade that tank anyway, so buy a better filter all together! Pads are crap & don't hold nearly enough bacteria as Aquaclear media does.

3g is not 80% of 10g. 8g is. Get a Python, for easier WC. Use Prime for dechlorinating & add 10 drops of it into the tank, before reffing with same temp water.
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby scpion on Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:06 am

titanoboa100 wrote:To Scpion. I have been using the carbon pad since I purchased the tank kit back on 3/26 2012. It came with the Aqueon filter tank. I will have to look at bacteria absorbing filter media when I buy my test kit.

Most of us don't use carbon pads unless for the purpose of removing meds or the water source is really screwed. There will be instructions on when to do the replacement on the packaging. As for the filter media, just the normal types would do, ie ceramic rings, beads etc. They serves to house bacterial and not absorb. And NOT those that expensive types like nitrazorbs, nitratelock etc.
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby puffykid on Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:04 am

To keep the water quality at its best do a 5g wc in the morning, around lunch and another time before bed.
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby titanoboa100 on Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:55 pm

I got the test results from the Pets Supplies Plus API Droplet test.

Nitrate 0

Nitrite 0

PH 8.2 (Apparently on 4/2/2012 the pet store did a PH test, but with the low range PH droplets only. Today they did it with a high range droplet test. They told me thats why the PH is 8.2 and not 7.6 like I though it was on 4/2/2012)

Ammonia Approximately .75 ppm(less than 1.0 PPM)

I think some of the GSP's sight is returning and he is swimming much more carefully. He seems to keep his green color more now than compared to a couple of days ago when the Ammonia was reading at 1.2 PPM.

Should I do another water change today? What about that 8.2 PH reading? Should I get some sort of chemical to lower the PH? I don't have anything inside of the tank besides the GSP and the white gravel. I don't know what could be keeping the PH so high.
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby Flutter on Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:15 pm

Ignore the pH and do at least two 8gal water changes per day until ammonia and nitrite are at 0.
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby bertie 83 on Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:54 pm

+1 get that amm to 0
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby titanoboa100 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:06 pm

I have been changing my water and the Ammonia seems to be staying at almost 0. I am concerned about the ICK situation. I would like to know what is the best way to deal with ICK and not put the GSP through much stress at the same time? Should I use Jungle ICK clear tabs? Or use the salt method? According to the Jungle Ick Clear tabs directions I can use half a fizz tab to treat weak or scaleless fish.
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby titanoboa100 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:12 pm

I alos wanted to say that I have been feeding my GSP just once a day. However yesterday I feed him once in the morning and once a night before bed. Al of a sudden my GSP got really sluggish and behaving like he did when he was blind back a week ago. This morning I decided not to feed him. Even as I type this reply in I have not feed my GSP today. I noticed about an hour ago that he began to poop. His poop was stringy and looked like it had grains or seeds attached to each other like a beed. Do you guys think stringy poop is a sign of his diet? I have been only feeding him shrimp and some flakes since I got him about two weeks ago. Could the stringy looking poop be related to the suspected ick?
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby Flutter on Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:25 pm

How to treat ich:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28113

He could have internal parasites. To treat these take 1/4 tablet of Jungle fizz anti-parasite tabs, put it in 1/4 cup of water, add food, then let food soak for several hours before feeding. Feed this for at least 4 days.
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby titanoboa100 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:42 pm

lol. I just learned online that Ick Clear fizz tabs will stain you're silicone sealant and you're gravel hose. I think I will be much more inclined to using the salt method! Good thing I still have my store receipt. Well guys instruct me how to begin the salt method.
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby scpion on Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:39 pm

And stop feeding flakes. It just pollute the water.
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby titanoboa100 on Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:25 am

Do the Jungle Anti-parasite fizz tabs cause tank discoloration?
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby Pufferpunk on Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:28 am

You're only soaking the food in the anti-parasite meds. You're not adding any of the med to the water. If the fish doesn't like the taste, add a crushed garlic clove to the soaking nix.
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

Postby titanoboa100 on Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:09 pm

I have begun the first feedings of Jungle Anti parasite fizz tabs. Im soaking the shrimp pieces that my GSP enjoys.
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