My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

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I have begun my ICK treatment today. My tank temp is at 85 f. I will try to get it to 86 f. I currently have 2 tbsp of salt in the water today.
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Re: My GSP is running into the tank glass and is blind

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Great! Did you look into the vitamin C?
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Pufferpunk wrote:Great! Did you look into the vitamin C?
Hey PP, what's the name/make of the vitamin C you use?
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The white ick spots seem to be deminishing. Also I haven't noticed any more stringy white poop from the gsp. I guess the medicine treated food is working.
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That's excellent :)
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Arny wrote:
Pufferpunk wrote:Great! Did you look into the vitamin C?
Hey PP, what's the name/make of the vitamin C you use?

I think this is it Arny viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30163
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What does it mean if my GSP keeps hanging out near the water filter and turns black color? He doesn't do this that much anymore, but Im just wondering if its a bad sign.
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Might be due to boredom. But if your water parameters are all good and your tank size is the minimum then a normal healthy gsp will change into darker colors through out the day. As long as they don't stay dark all the time or seem lethargic you should be okay.

If they continue to glass surfer in a corner you can point a power head in that direction or put a plastic plant in his way.
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Also, that aquarium salt you're using isn't going to raise the salinity, what you need is marine salt. You also need to start looking into a bigger home. That would also help with the ammonia as it would be more dilute.

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Your green spotted puffer requires a 30 gallon aquarium or larger. Right now the reason your ammonia is not really going anywhere is because your tank isn't cycled and your puffer produces too much ammonia for a tank that size. You need to get on craigslist and begin searching for a 30 gallon or larger tank. If you were to move your fish over to a larger tank with the same filter, you would have to deal with less ammonia problems. Your filter isn't cycled yet, but your puffer would stand a better chance at survival if he had more water volume to work with than just the 10 gallons. You also need to purchase a better filter, like an Aquaclear, as it will be better at keeping the aquarium cycled.

Try not to worry too much about the feeding. Just feed him the anti-parasite food, once a day.

The water changes that everyone is telling you to do is the absolute best advice. A lot of people are scared to do large, frequent water changes because they have been told by the pet store that it's bad, but that is a lie. Water changes are the only way to help your puffer from poisoning himself. Do large water changes whenever you have the time.

Follow the link that you were given for the ich treatment.

You seem to be very worried and caring, and that is a very good thing when it comes to caring for sick fish. Just try not to get discouraged and keep doing whatever you can for your puffer. You've been doing good so far, keep up the good work.
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When changing the water do you guys throw out the old water from the water filter?
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titanoboa100 wrote:When changing the water do you guys throw out the old water from the water filter?
Like the water in the filter? If that's what you're referring to, first off, be sure you ALWAYS unplug your filter and heater BEFORE doing your change and after that, it's up to you. I always dump mine out because I rinse the filter house itself because mine collects so much gunk. However, you may not need to.
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Yes I was referring to the water filter water. Thanks for the help. I also wanted to ask about gsp teeth length. How can you tell if the gap teeth are too long? I can't seem to find any snails where I live. I mostly feed him shrimp. I know he needs to start eating something hard. What do you guys recommend?
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you should be able to see a gap in his mouth. If it looks like they are smiling at you and you can see teeth they are to long.


if they are to long then you got to trim them yourself. If they aren't to long then a range of stuff works snails, mollusks half shell, clams shells, crabs err I'm sure people will know more.

another place to check is petsmart or other pet stores that carry fish most of them will hand over their snails for free.
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titanoboa100 wrote:Yes I was referring to the water filter water. Thanks for the help. I also wanted to ask about gsp teeth length. How can you tell if the gap teeth are too long? I can't seem to find any snails where I live. I mostly feed him shrimp. I know he needs to start eating something hard. What do you guys recommend?
Check aquabid.com for some Ramshorn snails.
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