dentistry alternative?
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: dentistry alternative?
you can view this thread if you are going no sedatives:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24506&hilit=+trim
remember a bit at a time multiple times is better than breaking off the entire tooth.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24506&hilit=+trim
remember a bit at a time multiple times is better than breaking off the entire tooth.
if you follow me, you avoid stepping in the crap that I just did...
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Re: dentistry alternative?
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Re: dentistry alternative?
Ok, guys, I had to have some fun with this one before I banned them! Hey, maybe we'll garner a new friendship out of it and a new puffer lover.
This was my E-mail response:
This was my E-mail response:
Hi!
I see you posted a reply to a forum I administer and maintain. I am interested in having some dental work done under anesthesia and am curious about what technique you use.
Before I go any further please let me tell you about myself and some of my concerns. I have a problem with continuously growing teeth. As hard as I try I cannot seem to keep them in shape, I get them to the correct length and after a few months they become too long and I have difficulty eating. The way I have been traditionally managing this issue is by eating foods that have a lot of crunch so they wear the teeth down. Occasionally I have to have sedation so my friend can clip them back down to a more reasonable size, which can be very unnerving for him and, to say the least, stressful for me. Getting the proper sedation is a real challenge most of the time. What we've been doing is this: My friend lets me out of my room, and places me head first in to a bowl of water with clove oil mixed in, after that I really don't remember a thing. It took a little practice for my friend to get the procedure correct and he accidentally killed at least three of my friends while he experimented. At least they didn't suffer.
My diet lately has consisted of raw shrimp with the shell still on, uncooked squid, mussels still attached to the shell (it makes me scrape my teeth as I get to meat detached), clams, live crabs and live snails. Do you have any suggestions on other foods?
Could you please get back to me on the sedation techniques you use and am I even close to proper technique and medications? Can you offer me better?
If you haven't figured things out yet, you posted a reply to a Puffer Fish message board. Do you do dentistry on fish and if so, can I get a percentage of the profit now because I will start making referals!?!
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Re: dentistry alternative?
LOL!! that was classic!
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Re: dentistry alternative?
we need to sticky that post! lmao thats really good. to the OP, good job on the clipping! you can also get some clams from the grocery store, freeze them to kill any parasites and then thaw in tank water for a bit and leave the meat on a piece of the shell. the puffer will have to scrape his teeth(as dadof4 mentioned in his letter lol) and it will help as well. my GSP must have seen stuff on the live rock when i had him, because i would see him occasionally look at a piece of rock and have a bite at it lol. essentially trimming his teeth along with the clam heavy diet i gave him as an alternative to snails since they werent very readily available as pest snails, and i didnt have the patience to do a snail tank at the time. clams were pretty cheap in my area anyway