Hello,
does some one know what could it be?
The puffer doesn't eat at become very thin(
The other three in the tank are still ok...
How to treat this?
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Pufferpunk
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Re: How to treat this?
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You MUST answer ALL the questions above in red, so we can help diagnose the problem with your puffer.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: How to treat this?
1. Unfortunately, I don't know water parametres, my tests are on their way from ebay.
I used tap water, kept it for a couple of days before put in the tank.
2. Tank size is 100 liters, there are four puffers with three plants and ten snails.
3. Feeding them with frozen worms, once or twice a day, change water once a week about 30%.
Added to the tank a bit of salt, one spoon of salt for every 10 litres.
4. No changes has been made.
5. Aquarium is three weeks old. There is internal filter and airation.
This puffer wasn't so active as the others since I bougt them and his condition slowly is becoming worse.
I attached foto how it looks.
I used tap water, kept it for a couple of days before put in the tank.
2. Tank size is 100 liters, there are four puffers with three plants and ten snails.
3. Feeding them with frozen worms, once or twice a day, change water once a week about 30%.
Added to the tank a bit of salt, one spoon of salt for every 10 litres.
4. No changes has been made.
5. Aquarium is three weeks old. There is internal filter and airation.
This puffer wasn't so active as the others since I bougt them and his condition slowly is becoming worse.
I attached foto how it looks.
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Iliveinazoo
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Re: How to treat this?
Have you cycled the tank? If not change the water daily and buy an instant cycling product like tetra safe start as soon as you possibly can.Pavel wrote:1. Unfortunately, I don't know water parametres, my tests are on their way from ebay.
I used tap water, kept it for a couple of days before put in the tank.
2. Tank size is 100 liters, there are four puffers with three plants and ten snails.
3. Feeding them with frozen worms, once or twice a day, change water once a week about 30%.
Added to the tank a bit of salt, one spoon of salt for every 10 litres.
4. No changes has been made.
5. Aquarium is three weeks old. There is internal filter and airation.
This puffer wasn't so active as the others since I bougt them and his condition slowly is becoming worse.
I attached foto how it looks.
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Pufferpunk
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Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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Re: How to treat this?
What kind of puffers? How big are they?
library/water-filtration/emergencycycle/
library/water-filtration/emergencycycle/
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: How to treat this?
Thanks a lot for your help!
will do the cycling.
Tetraodon fluviatilis, size is about 3 sm.
will do the cycling.
Tetraodon fluviatilis, size is about 3 sm.
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Pufferpunk
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Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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Re: How to treat this?
Can you post a photo of your fish? You have to upload it here: www.photobucket.com & then link it to this page.
Your tank is way too small for even 1 fluviatilis. Are you sure about the ID?
Look here: ug.php/v/PufferPedia/Brackish/
Your tank is way too small for even 1 fluviatilis. Are you sure about the ID?
Look here: ug.php/v/PufferPedia/Brackish/
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: How to treat this?
Yea, it looks like I have Green Spotted Puffers
here is the link:
http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/Pavel ... o/library/
here is the link:
http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/Pavel ... o/library/
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Re: How to treat this?
Hi there 
Sounds like you have a few issues that could be affecting your puffer, one of the biggest right now is the need to know the water parameters. If your tank has only been set up for three weeks and not previously cycled then it may be doing that right now. Puffers don't do well through a tank cycle, so this could be one issue. Also you should test the specific gravity of your water to make sure you have added enough salt. Do you have a heater and know the temperature of your tank? Fluctuating temperatures can also stress fish out. As Pufferpunk said you have too many puffers for the size tank you have - overcrowding can also stress fish. Even if they are small right now puffers generally don't like company. Last but not least there is the possibility that this puffer has internal parasites.
I hope your test kits come soon - does your local pet store offer water testing? you could always bring them a sample.
Sounds like you have a few issues that could be affecting your puffer, one of the biggest right now is the need to know the water parameters. If your tank has only been set up for three weeks and not previously cycled then it may be doing that right now. Puffers don't do well through a tank cycle, so this could be one issue. Also you should test the specific gravity of your water to make sure you have added enough salt. Do you have a heater and know the temperature of your tank? Fluctuating temperatures can also stress fish out. As Pufferpunk said you have too many puffers for the size tank you have - overcrowding can also stress fish. Even if they are small right now puffers generally don't like company. Last but not least there is the possibility that this puffer has internal parasites. I hope your test kits come soon - does your local pet store offer water testing? you could always bring them a sample.
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Pufferpunk
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Punkster, the 4" red T miurus
Mongo, the 4" A modestus
2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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Re: How to treat this?
You have enough puffers there to require a minimum of 80 gallons, even at a small size--at least 120g when adults (if they make it that far). At this point, all you can do is 80% water changes 2x/day, until you upgrade the tank or reduce the population of fish. I'm afraid you will be losing all your fish.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: How to treat this?
Outside of the tank size which has been identified as a major issue without having you test kits you can't be sure your tank is cycled. Puffers in an uncycled tank will suffer severe gill damage which will impact them for life. Additionally you mentioned you are adding salt but not what type. It needs to be marine salt like instant ocean not aquarium salt. These adorable little guys need brackish or marine conditions to live a happy full life. The best of luck. Keep doing large daily water changes until you get an instant cycle product or your test kits and can identify that you tank is cycled.
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