Puffer Identification

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Puffer Identification

Post by kikukku »

Well hello guys, im back online after 5 years LOL
I wanna share something, but first thing first, i wanna ask about puffer ID

Here is one good pic of my new un-identified puffer

Image

or
Link: http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc11 ... l2dasp.jpg

Could you help me ID it?
They look like abei, but mine doesnt have circle spot on their belly just like abei. They have pure white belly.
I got them from Sumatra-Indonesia's fisherman, and the one captured them said that this is his first time caught this kind of puffer (well i dont know whether i got deceived or not)

Ok thank you :D

EDIT: i forgot something, this is pure freshwater and no need adding fish-salt

EDIT2: Add some pictures
*i will reupload them

side view
side&bottom view (there is no spot under it's belly)
tail view (there is no red spot near it's tail)
AND today, i found she/he guards the eggs :D

3 Days Old Eggs
I see eyes inside the eggs :D
Image
Last edited by kikukku on Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:47 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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Re: Puffer Identification

Post by Pufferpunk »

It looks like the FW Spotted Congo puffer, Tetraodon schoutedeni, is making a comeback! How much were these?
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Re: Puffer Identification

Post by kikukku »

Pufferpunk wrote:It looks like the FW Spotted Congo puffer, Tetraodon schoutedeni, is making a comeback! How much were these?
I mean, these puffers are endemic to Sumatera-Indonesia (SE Asia). Are they possibly a new Species?
They cost me 5bucks each.

Just for information: from 5 puffers i have, 1 of them swims like T.Palembangensis (bottom swimmer) and is the alpha male/female, while the other floating in the middle/upper.

I'll get another pic soon. But it seems that the pic that i posted is gone eh?
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Re: Puffer Identification

Post by Pufferpunk »

No new species here--just haven't been available in the aquarium trade in over 30 years.
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Re: Puffer Identification

Post by Corvus »

Although, T. schoutedeni is back in trade, the puffers in this thread are NOT T. schoutedeni, but Pao leiurus (formerly Tetraodon leiurus or Monotrete leiurus) or a closely related species. Still a rare find in trade.
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Re: Puffer Identification

Post by pufferjw »

Corvus is right, I actually saw a T. schoutedeni on aquabid not too long ago. Also, are you sure those are P. leiurus? They usually have a big spot near their tail.
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Re: Puffer Identification

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No, interestingly the original specimens of P. leiurus as far as I know had no specific eye spots. Specimens later referred to this species had eye spots, but those are considered other long snouted, closely related species now.
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Re: Puffer Identification

Post by kikukku »

Hello guys, back again lol
I put some new pic above under EDIT2

I don't think it is a P. leiurus as it has no red spot right?

I found the very exact same picture as mine through google and here is the link ( may i post external link? please remind me)
h**p://www.kugelfischforum.de/index.php?id=fis ... no_cache=1
But they also state it as Monotrete leiurus.

And by the way, I found a puffer guard the eggs this morning :D
It chase all 3 puffer that come near him/her, i hope they can hatch and i can raise them well.

I wil make another thread on breeding puffer soon
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Re: Puffer Identification

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Interestingly the original specimens of P. leiurus as far as I know had no specific eye spots. You puffers look like them.
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Re: Puffer Identification

Post by kikukku »

Updated on first post with image

Counting days to hatch :D
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Re: Puffer Identification

Post by Pufferpunk »

Oh wow, I see all the eyes! Can you repost under Puffer Breeding, here?
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Re: Puffer Identification

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Image

Here's the (probably) first picture of leiurus from Pieter Bleeker. No eye spot.
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2 T biocellatus
C valentini
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C papuan
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Re: Puffer Identification

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Did they hatch?
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Re: Puffer Identification

Post by kikukku »

Sory for late reply, been busy with life :D

They hatch (begin to moves) at day 8, and free swimming at day 9. As of today (day 11), they are able to eat daphnia already
Very much bigger than fahaka's fry at the same age
Image

And the image corvus post so much like mine, maybe they were t.leiurus actually

So i wonder: if they're able to breed in freshwater, they ARE definetly freswater puffer aren't they?
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2 T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
Also kept:
lorteti
DPs
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Re: Puffer Identification

Post by Pufferpunk »

T.leiurus ARE FW puffers.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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